Explanation of Preble County JRS Rejection

Posted on September 3, 2010 by Jeff Golden

File 3 at the August 30, 2010 meeting was Preble County Auditor Mindy Robbins (General Financial Update).  As of August 27, 2010 the County had a cash balance of $2,506,863.75. For comparison of the relative financial condition last year, on August 28, 2009   the cash balance was $1,600,155.12.

File 5 Agreements & Contracts has the Landfill Leachate Force Main Engineering agreement with Choice One for the force main to Lakengren. While Camden faces a salt issue with drinking water this line moves forward.

File 7  I found this one of note not for the Travel Requests but what came after. This meeting date (August 30) was a deadline date for submission of questions to be asked for an upcoming interview. At the time of this exchange the only questions that had apparently been submitted came from a "JoAnn". This brought questions from Connie on how many to expect, Commissioner Wesler on the deadline being 4:00 and Commissioner Stonecash having to play school teacher to remind the participants to get their homework in. At one point Commissioner Stonecash commented “We'll get them as quickly as we can. If they choose not to get them in then we won't.”  I don’t want to be too hard on anyone because maybe the dog ate their homework but I mean come on this is one of the first collaborative efforts and they need reminded? 

File 8 has Commissioner Stonecash announcing Commissioner Day was appointed to the CORSA board.

File 9 has an informative review of the rejected JRS application for funding at Goose Creek. It is worth a listen for those wanting to know how close or far the site is from funding.  My view after listening to this meeting is different than what I think the Commissioners came out with. It sounded to me like they felt all the Goose Creek Commerce application needs is more polish. I was left with the feeling that it has little chance. You listen and you decide. It would be interesting to see how Preble County would have done if it could just find a site with highway and rail…..  

The next round for JRS is April of 2011 and is expected to have about $15 million available for projects, this total is half what this round had. There currently is no funding available beyond that round unless the program is put back before Ohio voters and passed. The next round will also be reduced to three. There were originally 10 applicants in the Low Intensity Site Development round. Goose Creek finished 7th, the three below Preble were withdrawn.  Also of interest is that Preble County Commissioners regularly bring up an old Miami University MOU pertaining to some possible interest at some future date at Goose Creek. A review of the awarded grants for High Intensity Site Development shows that the number one ranked project in that category was the Miami Heritage Technology Park. The applicant is listed as Oxford Community Improvement Corporation in Oxford, Ohio and they received $3,500,000. I’ll leave it to readers to decide the validity of any current Preble Commission claims of interest from Miami University.  Let me put it this way; if you were building a research facility and employing talented individuals would you locate it in an area with the high truck traffic at Exit 10?

Preble County, Ohio

County Commissioners

August 30,  2010

Meeting audio and review

All three Commissioners in attendance

File 1

I. OPEN MEETING

II. CALL OF ROLL

III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

IV. PRAYER

3   minute mark   Proclamation Resolution 457-10-146 honoring Tom Barnes who retired after 21 years.

V. PUBLIC COMMENTS

VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE JOURNALIZATION & NOTE RECEIPT OF THE CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES FOR THE AUGUST 25TH REGULAR SESSION MEETING

End 7.02 minute mark on CD – 1.611MB

File 2

VII. APPROVAL OF VOUCHERS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE VOUCHERS AS SUBMITTED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR

7.25   minute mark   VIII. FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS

A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #451-10-146

RE: AUTH. PAYMENT – FELONY SUBSIDY ($576.20); SHERIFF ($150.00); ENGINEER ($115.36 & $266.15)

B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #452-10-146

RE: TRANSFER OF FUNDS – VARIOUS DEPTS.

C. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #455-10-146

RE: SUPPLE. APPROP. – UNCLAIMED MONIES – $605.59

D. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #456-10-146

RE: CERTIFYING WASTE DISPOSAL ASSESSMENTS TO COUNTY AUDITOR

11.26 minute mark on cd  

4.19 minutes – .98MB

File 3

9:15 A.M. – MINDY ROBBINS (GENERAL FUND FINANCIAL UPDATE)

13.5   minute mark   Meeting starts

14   minute mark    Cash Balance on August 27, 2010 –  $2,506,863.75

    *                        August 28, 2009       Cash balance  - $1,600,155.12

14.75   minute mark    Sales tax exceeded estimates by $46,160

Charges for services exceeded estimate by $1,325

Local Government came in $4,704 more than estimate.

Funds & Forfeitures down $1,630

16.5   minute mark    Conveyance fee for August – $4,462.60  Total since inception $88,967. (Started September 25, 2009)

18.25 minute mark on cd  

6.58 minutes – 1.59 MB

File 4

19   minute mark    IX. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF A REPORT FROM BECKY SORRELL, JFS DIRECTOR

RE: SETS BANK RECONCILIATION ACCOUNT FOR JULY 2010 – CSEA

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF A LETTER FROM THE COUNTY SHERIFF

RE: CONTRACTUAL WAGE RATE INCREASE – DONNA TERRY – SHERIFF

C. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A LETTER TO THE COUNTY AUDITOR

RE: CERTIFICATION OF Q-DITCH ASSESSMENTS – BROCK DITCH #911

22 minute mark on cd  

3.48 minutes – .89 MB

File 5

X. AGREEMENTS & CONTRACTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF AN AMENDED AUDITOR’S CERTIFICATION

RE: LANDFILL LEACHATE FORCE MAIN ENGINEERING AGREEMENT W/ CHOICE ONE ENGINEERING CORP. – LANDFILL LEACHATE FORCE MAIN ($74,090.00) & LANDFILL CONSTRUCTION ($19,900.00)

Letter from Auditor read into record.

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A CONTRACT

RE: LEWISBURG-HORN ST. IMPROVEMENTS PHASE 2 AGREEMENT W/ PROGRADE EXCAVATION & DEMOLITION, LLC – $52,217.57 – FY09 CDBG

24.3 minute mark on cd  

2.25 minutes – .569 MB

File 6

9:30 A.M. – TOM BARNES (RETIREMENT)

EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE EMPLOYMENT OF A COUNTY EMPLOYEE

Session included Tom Barnes.

26   minute mark    Note receipt of a letter that states the retirement of Tom Barnes effective September 1, 2010.

27.75   minute mark    Proclamation read to Tom.

32.75 minute mark on cd  

8.25 minutes – 1.92 MB

File 7

XI. TRAVEL REQUESTS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING TRAVEL REQUESTS:

A. RES. #453-10-146 – MAGISTRATE OVERMYER & PENNY McGUIRE – PROBATE CT.  Cost not to exceed $110

B. RES. #454-10-146 – MICHELLE DAVIS – JUVENILE TASC   Cost not to exceed $430

34.25 minute mark     Commissioner Stonecash – What else have you?

Friday – October 1, 2010 10:00 a.m. meeting at Eaton Armory.

36.5 minute mark     Connie asks if Commissioners have been working on their questions for upcoming interview.

36.75  minute mark     Dave mentions JoAnn

37.25  minute mark     Connie – So am I expecting what? Three or four other sets of questions from other people along with three of your

Dave Wesler – Bob was going to ask them or tell them to get them in and I thought

Commissioner Stonecash - Mike Snell

Commissioner Wesler – I thought was today the date you were supposed to have them in by?

Connie – Yeah today was the deadline.

Commissioner Stonecash - I'll call them after we finish here.

Connie – Ok. So I should have them by..

Commissioner Wesler –  4:00

Connie -  Today? Ok

Commissioner Stonecash - We'll get them as quickly as we can.

Connie -  Pardon?

Commissioner Stonecash - We'll get them as quickly as we can. If they choose not to get them in then we won't.

Connie - I'll have them all compiled by Wednesday, right?

Commissioner Stonecash - That's fine.

38 minute mark on cd  

5.17 minutes – 1.2 MB

File 8

38  minute mark     Connie - Our county auction, I think we had over $18,000 brought in County auction on Friday.

Everything was purchased.

40  minute mark     New Policy Manual by October 1, 2010

41  minute mark     Commissioner Stonecash - Friday CORSA (County Risk Sharing Authority) meeting in Columbus. Four new Board members were voted in, Mr. Day being one of those. This gives Preble County membership on the Board.

42  minute mark     Commissioner Day – One of the big areas of concern is the rising cost of Law Enforcement. So we need to do ahh they offer some training and things but we need to try to make sure that our Sheriff's office is taking advantage of all the training and things that is offered by CORSA.

42.75  minute mark     Commissioner Stonecash - I have just one thing I want to talk about real quick. Tomorrow night at 4:00 is the PDP (Preble County Development Partnership) meeting.  Are you able to go?

Connie -  I am going to have to look at that.

Commissioner Stonecash -  That's the election of the Board

Connie - Ok. Do you have a schedule of when the meetings are Bob?

Commissioner Stonecash -  It's every two weeks right now. Now that will change I assume when the Board is formed.

43.75  minute mark     Commissioner Stonecash -    The question I have and… that's ok never mind, I'll hold that question.

44 minute mark on cd  

6.01 minutes – 1.37 MB

File 9

10:00 A.M. – SHEENA METZGER (JRS APPLICATION & SITE VISIT) GOOSE CREEK

44.25  minute mark     Jason DeWitt also in Chamber.

45.75 minute mark      Meeting started but waiting on Mr. Painter from Kleingers

Decision to wait until he gets there.

46.75 minute mark      Sheena informs Commissioners that the Rep for their area is Kevin Carver (see January 5, 2010 meeting)

48.25 minute mark      Commissioner Wesler – Asks Sheena how long she has been with agency. She has been with the department for 5 years and JRS for a little over 3 years now.

49.50 minute mark      Commissioner Wesler – asks if she came by the site. (she used GPS and had)

50.25  minute mark      Jason has been with JRS just a little over a year. Had been an Intern until completing Law school.

SMALL TALK WHILE WAITING FOR Mr. Painter.

51.5 minute mark      Next round in April of 2011 and expecting to have about $15 million or about half of this round. As the program is set up that will be the final funding round of JRS unless it goes back to voters to be reapproved.

52.25  minute mark     Begins –  Background on this round, they received 44 applications, 3 formally withdrew after they did a completeness review on those. They reviewed and scored 41 applications.

52.50  minute mark     Explanation on who was involved and how site was scored. No one from geographic area would be involved to avoid conflict of interest.  They reviewed the site and came to a group consensus in June.

55.50  minute mark      How it was scored and how to improve application.

56.50  minute mark      Nothing confirmed on putting funding for JRS back on ballot.

57  minute mark      Mr. Painter from Kleingers comes in to room and apologizes for coming in late.

58  minute mark      Project scored a 96 from the review committee and was ranked 7th out of the low intensity.

58.3  minute mark      District priority ranking of "4"  these would be bonus points.

59  minute mark      There were three ranks – Acceptable – Preferable – Extraodinary.

The presentation received a "Preferable" ranking. Liked the marketing.

Negatives were at the time there was no land options on property.

Would also of liked to hear more on what green industries they would be marketing to.

1 hr.  minute mark      Pretty wide net for green industry and would like to see some idea of how it would be done.

Branding and marketing was a strong point on application.

Need for more focus on the targeted industries would have helped. Who in those industries are you specifically targeting?

1 hr.   2.5  minute mark      Section C on next page… need for financial assistance scored a preferable. At time of guide line release Preble had 11.5% unemployment.

Next page had economic impact and the site scored an "Acceptable" not located in an Appalachian distressed or WARN.

1 hr.   3.5  minute mark      Not a huge population in area or a lot of development occurring.

1 hr.   5  minute mark       Commissioner Day mentions population being impacted by GM closings. It might bump the application to "Preferable"

1 hr.   7 minute mark       Most of the review is done before the application.

1 hr.   8  minute mark       Section D  scored a "Preferable"

Unclear on where all the funding was coming from for some of the projects.

Land options were not executed at time of application. They were not executed by the time of the presentation. Funding recommendation had already been made when notification arrived on land purchase agreement.

1 hr.  10.25  minute mark on cd  

26.14 minutes – 6 MB

File 10

1 hr.   11.25  minute mark       Have had problems with land options.

Section D  scored an "Acceptable"

Liked access to I-70.

1 hr.   12 minute mark    Had concern over sanitary building being the first thing people see when they come into Park. Additional narrative on how the utilities will be provided to the site.  Need to know where the funding is coming from would be helpful to future application. Discussion on mitigating an underground storage tank and homes in the area.

1 hr.   13 minute mark    More detrimental to not discuss those issues than to bring them out.

1 hr.   14 minute mark     It becomes an issue as to what is going on here?

1 hr.   15 minute mark     Section F  "Acceptable"  land options came into play. Street lighting, electric and telephone issue in budget. Want it in writing. Timeline for construction.

1 hr.   17  minute mark     Scope of work issue discussed.

1 hr.   17.5  minute mark     What happens if you don't get grants?

1 hr.   19 minute mark     Section G  "Preferable"   

1 hr.   20 minute mark     Include a Master Plan.

1 hr.   21 minute mark     Tie to County and Region

1 hr.   22 minute mark     Section H additional attributes received 6 points because of  I-70. Need tied in with strategic plan. Regional support.

1 hr.   23 minute mark     Last section site categories received 15 points with commercial airport within 30 miles.

1 hr.   24 minute mark     Better narrative.

1 hr.   24.5  minute mark    Came in fourth for District and next round will only forward three instead of the six this time. Keep that in mind when moving forward.

1 hr.   26 minute mark    No other other grant application programs available and they are becoming harder to obtain with less and less funding. Next round of JRS just as competitive and less money available.

1 hr.   27 minute mark    Question on EDA Grant

1 hr.   27.5 minute mark    OWDA Grant received for just under $450,000

1 hr.   30  minute mark     No issues with acreage. More with targeted industry and who you were looking to attract.

Competitive application probably end of next June.

1 hr.  33.5 minute mark on cd  

23.20 minutes – 5.43 MB

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JACOB’S LADDER PROGRAM – HIT – Children Services

Posted on August 28, 2010 by Jeff Golden

There are three issues at this meeting that are all at least partly a reflection of a lack of good jobs in this county.  First we have the Jacob’s Ladder Program meeting and the issues of how many children qualify for free or reduced lunch at local schools.  The numbers are troubling and this group strives to send home food with Kindergarten through Sixth grade students that fall into this category or many would have little or nothing to eat on weekends. Second is the HIT Foundation meeting on grants to help low income residents. Third was the Children Services Monthly Meeting. 

All three issues would be greatly helped with more intelligent decision making by Preble County Commissioners.  Quite simply, once again the decision to send a leachate line to Lakengren is short sighted.  Sending the leachate south along Rt.127 to Camden creates the possibility of industry locating in what has been called by many the prime area for industrial development in the county.  Jobs are what is needed to address a multitude of issues with the same core problem; Lack of income. Those jobs have little to no possibility of being created along the rural route to Lakengren.

Also at issue is the continued discussion of raising the landfill assessment on the citizens of Preble County. This issue was again raised at the Monday, August 25, 2010 meeting and it is applicable to the issues of this meeting.  The residents of Preble County as a whole should not be subsidizing the sewer rates of the private community of Lakengren.  The $1,500,000 for the project was applied for with Camden named as the destination.  This would not be a hand out to Camden this would be an attempt to create industrial growth in an area with Railroad, Highway frontage and other infrastructure close at hand for it. None of which is possible with the Lakengren route. 

The Preble County Landfill leachate line should go to Camden. The Preble County Commissioners were elected to serve all the residents of Preble County and it is time they at least create the opportunity that the Camden route would open up.

In stark contrast to the issues raised above is the letter read into the record by Preble County Commission President Bob Stonecash to elected officials and county employees. The letter addresses the insurance benefits of all on the Preble County payroll. Nice benefits, really nice benefits and but a pipe dream too many residents of Preble County. There is a need for across the board change in Preble County and it should start with leadership worried more about the benefit packages of the few instead of the needs of the many.  

More time needs to be spent on sensible economic development by creating areas for industrial development and less on worry over government benefit packages.  Let’s spend limited funds on an environment conducive to job creation so Preble County parents can feed Preble County students.

Preble County, Ohio

County Commissioners

August 25, 2010

Meeting audio and review

Commissioners Stonecash & Wesler in attendance

Commissioner Chris Day Absent

File 1

I. OPEN MEETING

II. CALL OF ROLL

III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

IV. PRAYER

V. PUBLIC COMMENTS

5  minute mark     Photo-op

End 7.49 minute mark on CD – 1.79MB

File 2

9:00 A.M. – JENNIFER HONAKER (JACOB’S LADDER PROGRAM)

8.5 minute mark     Started last year. Food program for school students below poverty level. This program sends food home with kids so they have something to eat over the weekend. Food is sent home in a backpack. Backpacks are provided if student needs it.

Last year it served 119 students a week in Eaton Kindergarten through sixth grade.

This year all the elementary schools in county will be covered.

13 minute mark     At National Trail the total was 322 students out of 581 that qualified for free and reduced lunch. About 60% of the 322 will probably be targeted for the program. Homeroom teachers involved and at National Trail about 55% of the students.

Preble Shawnee about 49% of students are free and reduced lunch, also a large number.

Twin Valley the number is 38% free or reduced lunch..

Tri County North – 42% free or reduced lunch.

Eaton Community Schools – 42% free or reduced lunch.

15 minute mark     Stories of children asking if their food is here yet.  This is a sad situation.

Food meets national nutrition standards.

Larger building needed.

16 minute mark     Have received a few grants but mostly private donations. Last year was funded by private donations only.

Sponsorships $10 a month.

Not uncommon for the food to be shared to feed the rest of the family.

20 minute mark     Hamilton County numbers higher. Suspected that some local students are not identified and do not want to be seen using free or reduced lunch.

22 minute mark     Trying to reach out to students with nutrition information as there can be issue with parents not listening.

23 minute mark     Attempt to build relationships with families.

26.30 minute mark on cd  

18.52 minutes – 4.31MB

File 3

VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE JOURNALIZATION AND NOTE RECEIPT OF THE CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES FOR THE AUGUST 18TH & AUGUST 23RD REGULAR SESSION MEETINGS

VII. FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS

A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #446-10-146

RE: SUPPLE. APPROP. – $12,940.00 – 2010 WIC

B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #447-10-146

RE: TRANSFER OF FUNDS – SOLDIERS RELIEF

C. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #448-10-146

RE: AUTH. PAYMENT – TASC ($108.18) & WORKFORCE DEV. ($407.50)

29.75 minute mark on cd  

3.31 minutes – 825kb

File 4

9:30 A.M. – HIT FOUNDATION (HOUSING ASSISTANCE GRANT PROGRAM)

33.5 minute mark     Commissioner Stonecash reads letter into record.

35.4 minute mark on cd  

5.34 minutes – 1.27MB

File 5

Commissioner Stonecash – That percentage of homeless kids.. quite disturbing when you think about that many kids going hungry.

Commissioner Wesler - I don't think it was that many kids going hungry it was just those who qualify.

Commissioner Stonecash – Then you wonder if there isn't able if they aren't able to partnership with other organizations so we don't get duplication.

35.9 minute mark     VIII. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF A LETTER FROM THE OHIO EPA

RE: AUTHORIZATION FOR TEMPORARY INCREASE OF AUTHORIZED MAXIMUM DAILY WASTE – LANDFILL (not to exceed 30 days. Raised from 195 tons to 350 tons)

B. NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AN ADDENDUM

RE: ADDENDUM #1 TO BID SPECS GRATIS-SOUTH STREET WATERLINE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT – WAGE RATE REVISIONS – FY09 NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION

39.5 minute mark     IX. TRAVEL REQUESTS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING TRAVEL REQUEST:

A. RES. #449-10-146 – JULIE MORRIS – JFS     Cost not to exceed $10

B. RES. #450-10-146 – DONELLA HOBBS – JFS   Cost not to exceed $30

40.6 minute mark on cd  

18.52 minutes – 4.31MB

File 6

LETTER TO COUNTY ELECTED OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES ON HEALTH INSURANCE

Commissioner Stonecash – "I have a letter here from the Preble County Board of Commissioners to all elected officials and county employees. Reference county health insurance renewal dates. As you know all health insurance benefits in the past have had a renewal date of October 1, of each year. During last year's renewal period the board awarded a health insurance plan to United Health Care with a 15 month rate guarantee which would change our renewal date of each year to January 1. With that being said dental coverage which is not with United Health Care but rather with Dental Care Plus has a renewal date of 10/01/2010. In order to maintain a uniform renewal date for all insurance benefits the Board of Preble County Commissioners has amended the renewal date for dental coverage to January 1, 2011. We are in the process of reviewing the proposals for all health insurance benefits effective January 1, 2011, at this time. We along with Preble County Health Insurance Advisory Board will be working diligently to get the best rates that we can for all the health insurance benefits offered to Preble County employees."

42.5 minute mark on cd  

1.50 minutes – 431KB

File 7

Commissioner Stonecash – and what else do you have for us at this time?

42.75 minute mark     Connie - I do have all the information that you asked me to gather on the commercial and non-commercial building regulation rates. … review all this NIC and maybe Cindy….

43.50 minute mark     Zoning rates

45 minute mark     Mowing contract. Two year contract coming up on renewal.

47 minute mark      prepare a contract for renewal.

48 minute mark      Commissioner Stonecash –  I have a comment about our Maintenance Director…two issues, gentleman let us know that light on top of Courthouse shining on flag was out and they took care of it immediately. At the Planning Board meeting …loose tile taken care of before it was mentioned to him.   Good job.  Lots of comments on how well things look and are done. "Big turn around since Bob Brower took over."

50 minute mark      RECESS FOR HIT VISIT

50 minute mark on cd  

7.31 minutes – 1.72MB

File 8

10:30 A.M. – CHILDREN SERVICES MONTHLY MEETING

Becky Sorrell

50.5  minute mark      Currently 82 kids in care.

51  minute mark      Spent $91,598.42 on placement in July. That covered 1408 bed days. The total cost per day per child $65.05.

67 referrals in July.

54  minute mark      May not need to use the entire local appropriation.

55  minute mark      15 year old female issue.

57  minute mark      Started baby brother on fire.

57.5  minute mark      RFP scoring for foster care. 21 proposals submitted.

1hr.   minute mark      Employee orientation

1hr.  2.5 minute mark      Sponge Bob lives in a pineapple.

1hr.  5.2 minute mark on cd  

15.1 minutes – 3.47MB

File 9

Commissioner Stonecash – and what else do you have dear?

Connie – we have one addendum to the Gratis —?

1hr. 7 minute mark      Discussion of Sheriff lending car that may be recalled.

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Gas to Energy MOU & Talk of Raising The Landfill Assessment

Posted on August 27, 2010 by Jeff Golden

Of concern from this meeting is the mentioning again of raising the Landfill Assessment on the Citizens of Preble County.  Tonnage is down and the county is not cutting employees at the landfill and even continues consideration of building a new $750,000 Administrative building. These people live in a make believe land of bottomless taxpayer pockets. If this assessment is needed then it reinforces the reasons for the leachate line going to Camden and through an area likely to raise input tonnage to the Preble County Landfill. This is an area prime for not only industrial development but the jobs that would follow.

Preble County, Ohio

County Commissioners

August 23, 2010

Meeting audio and review

All three Commissioners in attendance

File 1

I. OPEN MEETING

II. CALL OF ROLL

III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

IV. PRAYER

2.5   minute mark   Commissioner Stonecash –  A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING RE: MOU FOR GAS TO ENERGY PROJECT W/ COGENERATION CONSULTANTS – LANDFILL

3.35   minute mark    Explanation on MOU. Needed to forgo testing and hopefully obtain grants. John Jones & Tom Barnes in chambers.

4.25   minute mark    Noted that Richmond is backing off similar plan at Richmond Landfill because they did not think it was worth it.

5   minute mark    Discussion on building a new $750,000 building at the landfill

6.5   minute mark    Building currently at landfill will apparently need moved. Commissioners Stonecash and Day appear to be leaning toward it while Commissioner Wesler is questioning the cost. Welser mentions that cost was for an administrative only building and had no mention of an inexpensive pole barn to work on equipment which is needed and would presumably be an additional cost on top of the $750,000. Unacceptable cost. Earlier this year it was mentioned that the landfill assessment may need to be increased. The County Engineer even tried leveraging this future building as being multi-purpose and available to the public. We do not need an extravagantly costly building or the public wandering around in the evening at the landfill. These people are playing with the public's money.

7.75   minute mark    Despite previous exchange and protestation the motion for MOU passes 3 – 0.

End 8.15 minute mark on CD – 1.88MB

File 2

9:00 A.M. – CAROLYN FILSON (COUNTY HEALTH INSURANCE)

10   minute mark     Commissioner Stonecash –  you going to show us figures? Asks that copies be made.

22.5  minute mark     Loss ratio at 120% after June.

24.75  minute mark     214 people covered

25  minute mark     Couples jumping on county plan because of cost where spouse works.

26  minute mark     Employees paying only 14% of premium. Low compared to other plans.

26.3  minute mark     Cost to employees raised only 1% last year.

31.75  minute mark     Move to extend dental plan three months to the end of the year. Motion passes 3 – 0

32  minute mark     Discussion of spouses and dependents using county plan when they have another plan with another company or entity available.

37  minute mark     Commissioner Day on PERS and retirement. PERS pays 100% unless there is other coverage available.

39.25  minute mark     Opt out bonus.

41  minute mark     lame 2112 comment.

43.15 minute mark on cd  

34.53 minutes – 7.98MB

File 3

9:30 A.M. – RECYCLING MONTHLY MEETING

43.5  minute mark     Doomsday discussion

44.5  minute mark     Meeting begins with Tish Plaugher.

46  minute mark     Compost & County Fair.

49  minute mark     Tish – 3ft. of paper equals one tree.   I think it should be mentioned that this alleged fact is subject to the size of the tree.

51  minute mark     Talk of raising the landfill assessments of Preble County Citizens

53  minute mark     Tonnage down.  

54  minute mark     Village Pantry using TreeHouse Environmental   three times a week which hauls it to Kentucky. Tish claims they want to come into Preble and take over and push out Rumpke. Claims that TreeHouse is $2 cheaper for residents and $50 cheaper for commercial and industrial..  Company website shows service area as including Preble County.Treehouse Environmental Services, LLC  3275 Profit Drive, Fairfield, OH‎ – (513) 860-0180‎

55 minute mark     Company to be advised that they must use Preble landfill or request a waiver.

55.75 minute mark     Commissioner Wesler – No waiver, you need to talk to Eastman & Smith. I am surprised Steve and John haven't already suggested this. Eastman & Smith is the one to deal with this because we got flow control years ago under their help.

Tish mentions 2004 letter.

56.75 minute mark     Send letter.  $5000 fine every time they pick up Village Pantry waste.

59 minute mark     On target with solid waste plan.

1hr. 1 minute mark     Pork Fest discussion

1 hr. 1.5 minute mark on cd  

18.25 minutes – 4.21MB

File 4

10:00 A.M. – MINDY ROBBINS (GENERAL FUND FINANCIAL UPDATES)

1hr. 2 minute mark     Meeting begins

1hr. 3 minute mark     Sales tax came in at $375,061.98  - $46,160 more than estimate – relatively close to amount lost in July.

1hr. 6 minute mark     Local Government came in at $52,049.40  came in over estimate.

1hr. 8.5 minute mark     Commissioner Wesler poor mouthing county finances while Mindy claims every quarter has been better and estimates $1,500,000 carry over.

1hr. 10.5 minute mark     Commissioner Wesler mentions $800,000 carry over and County Auditor comments she would never recommend starting out any lower than that "by any means".

1hr. 11 minute mark     Discussion of Darke County cutting 5% and commissioners congratulating themselves on making cuts last year "took bull by the horns".

Mindy Robbins hearing that Local Government could be about 15% reductions. Some agencies claim lower than that.

1 hr. 14 minute mark on cd  

12.30 minutes – 2.86MB

File 5

1hr. 14.5 minute mark    Jefferson Township remark

1hr. 15.5 minute mark    VI. APPROVAL OF VOUCHERS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE VOUCHERS AS SUBMITTED BY THE

COUNTY AUDITOR

VII. FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF (2) AMENDED CERTIFICATES

RE: WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ($52,900.00) & WIC ($42,480.00)

B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #441-10-146

RE: CHILD & FAMILY HEALTH SERVICES-MEDICAID ($10,000.00); WIC ($42,480.00); & WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ($52,900.00)

C. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #444-10-146

RE: AUTH. PAYMENT – TASC ($534.01) & DRETAC-TREASURER ($2,958.00)

1 hr. 18 minute mark on cd  

4.01 minutes – 944KB

File 6

VIII. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF A LETTER FROM THE COUNTY ENGINEER

RE: HIRE OF DAVID J. KRAZL, JR. AS ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN II

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF A LETTER TO RESIDENTS OF PCSD #2

RE: SANITARY SEWER COLLECTION SYSTEM CLEAN WATER CONNECTIONS

Discussion on Item D from Agreements & Contracts

1hr. 24.25 minute mark    IX. AGREEMENTS & CONTRACTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING

RE: MOU FOR GAS TO ENERGY PROJECT W/ COGENERATION CONSULTANTS – LANDFILL

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AMENDMENT

RE: AMENDMENT TO RENEW CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION CONTRACT W/ TASC & FCFC – $15,000.00 – OHIO CHILDREN’S TRUST

C. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING

RE: MOU FOR SECURITY SUPPORT SERVICES W/ PREBLE COUNTY SHERIFF – PREBLE COUNTY GENERAL HEALTH DISTRICT

D. NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A LETTER FROM BECKY SORRELL, JFS

RE: PERSONNEL ACTION – JUDY PLAUGHER – JFS

1 hr. 25.8 minute mark on cd  

4.01 minutes – 944KB

File 7

X. TRAVEL REQUESTS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING TRAVEL REQUESTS:

A. RES. #442-10-146 – MICHELLE DAVIS – TASC   Cost not to exceed $39.60

B. RES. #443-10-146 – DEP. BRAD MOORE – FOJ   Cost not to exceed $875

C. RES. #445-10-146 – COMMISSIONERS STONECASH, DAY  – COMMISSION  Cost not to exceed NO COST TO COUNTY

1 hr. 28.4 minute mark on cd  

4.01 minutes – 944KB

File 8

Commissioner Stonecash - What else do you have Ma'am?

1hr. 29 minute mark    Sheriff vehicle and Victim Witness.

1hr. 32 minute mark    EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE EMPLOYMENT OF A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE

NO ACTION TAKEN

1hr. 32.75 minute mark    EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE EMPLOYMENT OF A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE

NO ACTION TAKEN

1hr. 33.6 minute mark    RECESS UNTIL APPROXIMATELY 1:30

1hr. 33.9 minute mark    EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS PENDING LITIGATION

Katie Worthington present. Case number 10CB28215

ADJOURN

1 hr. 37.5 minute mark on cd  

9.04 minutes – 2.07MB

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Com Net Inc. – Fiber Optic Broadband & Preble County

Posted on August 27, 2010 by Jeff Golden

The initial contact – setting up and scheduling a meeting with Connect Ohio was done by Jane Marshall who realized the need for addressing the rural broadband issue. Connect Ohio had met on several occasions with the current Preble County Commissioners and was always put off to another day. Only after a meeting was scheduled minus Preble County Commission involvement did the current County Commissioners jump on board and appoint a person they describe as an employee of the local chamber and Charlie Pennington head of the CIC to spearhead an effort already started without them.

Ohio Receives Additional $111.3 Million in Broadband Recovery Act Awards
Columbus, Ohio August 18, 2010
http://www.ohiomiddlemile.org/news/awarded_2.html

Com Net, Inc., $30 million, awarded on July 2, 2010. The Wapakoneta, Ohio, company's project will add more than 700 miles of high-capacity fiber to rural and underserved communities in 28 western counties. It will create 105 jobs, save more than 220 jobs and connect to about 900 anchor institutions, including schools, government and community organizations. 

Corn Net, Inc & Preble Fiber Optic

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Certificate Of Title Repays General Fund

Posted on August 26, 2010 by Jeff Golden

Yes, this one is out of order, I received an email asking what happened to the August 11, meeting?  It was on my hard drive, I either got busy and forgot to put it on the website or it disappeared in cyber space. I'll go with forgot to transfer it. 

The Certificate of Title office has paid back the remainder of the funds borrowed from the General Fund.

Preble County, Ohio

County Commissioners

August 11, 2010

Meeting audio and review

Commissioner Stonecash & Commissioner Wesler Present

Preble County Commissioner Chris Day Comes In During Financial Considerations (4.5 minute mark)

File 1

I. OPEN MEETING

II. CALL OF ROLL

III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

IV. PRAYER

V. PUBLIC COMMENTS

VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE JOURNALIZATION AND NOTE RECEIPT OF THE CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES FOR THE AUGUST 9TH REGULAR SESSION MEETING

End 3.09 minute mark on CD – 740KB

File 2

VII. FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF (2) AMENDED CERTIFICATES

RE: PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY ($133.54) & PRICE’S CREEK BRIDGE REPLACEMENT ($372,000.00)

B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #419-10-146

RE: SUPPLE. APPROP. – PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY ($133.54); PRICE’S CREEK BRIDGE REPLACEMENT ($372,000.00) & DRETAC-TREASURER ($5,000.00)

4.5 minute mark      Commissioner Day comes in, apologizes for being late.

C. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #420-10-146

RE: TRANSFER OF FUNDS – VARIOUS DEPTS.

5 minute mark      Certificate of Title transfers $29,735.75 to General Fund. Pay back of entire amount previously borrowed.

6.15 minute mark on cd  

3.04 minutes – 721KB

File 3

VIII. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF A LETTER FROM PENNY MCGUIRE, JUVENILE COURT

RE: CHANGE FROM FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE TO PART-TIME FOR BILLIE MORELAND & NEW HIRE OF MARY WARRICK AS PART-TIME CLERK – JUV. CT.

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A LEGAL AD, BID SPECS, & BID FORM

RE: DESIGN/BUILD PROJECT FOR JUNCTION ROAD & KETTERMAN ROAD BRIDGE REPLACEMENTS – ENGINEER

C. NOTE RECEIPT OF A LETTER FROM CHRIS WASHINGTON, CLERK OF COURTS

RE: NEW HIRE OF CHARLOTTE EBY – CERTIFICATE OF TITLE – $9.50 an hour.

D. NOTE RECEIPT OF AN ANNEXATION PETITION

RE: PETITION FOR ANNEXATION WITH CONSENT OF ALL OWNERS AND PARTIES – 4.483 ACRES TO THE VILLAGE OF WEST ALEXANDRIA – well problems and need water.

E. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #421-10-146

RE: APPROVING THE ANNEXATION OF CERTAIN REAL ESTATE TO THE VILLAGE OF WEST ALEXANDRIA, OHIO

12.4 minute mark on cd  

6.1 minutes – 1.41MB

File 4

IX. AGREEMENTS & CONTRACTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AMENDMENT

RE: AMENDMENT TO LETTER OF ARRANGEMENT W/ AUDITOR OF STATE – INCREASE $11,000.00 – BUREAU OF INSPECTION See Monday meeting.

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: WORKERS’ COMPENSATION GROUP RATING PLAN AGREEMENT W/ CCAO SERVICE CORP.

13.6 minute mark on cd  

1.25 minutes – 333KB

File 5

Commissioner Stonecash – Connie what have you for us?

13.65 minute mark      Connie - requests Board go into EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS COMPENSATION OF A COUNTY EMPLOYEE.

15 minute mark      Out of session. NO ACTION TAKEN.

Commissioner Stonecash instructs Connie - "To make the necessary phone calls to the parties involved and get their written statement as to whether things are working out with the employee we have discussed."

Chris Day - contact the supervisor and get a status report on the employee in question.

16.6 minute mark      Connie – requests that they go into EXECUTIVE SESSION TO TO DISCUSS EMPLOYMENT OF A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE. AND DISCIPLINARY ACTION.

17.4 minute mark     NO ACTION TAKEN Connie asked to follow up on their recommendations.

17.5 minute mark     Fairground car rental?

20.75 minute mark     Chris Day – "I was asked to put my name in to be on the CORSA Board. (County Risk Sharing Authority)"

23.5 minute mark     Sheriff comes in to chambers

24.75 minute mark on cd  

11.05 minutes – 2.53MB

File 6

10:00 A.M. – SHERIFF SIMPSON (UPDATE ON DISPATCH CENTER)

25.5 minute mark     Reducing overtime.

31.5 minute mark on cd  

6.47 minutes – 1.55MB

File 7

34 minute mark     EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS POSSIBLE DISCIPLINE OF A COUNTY EMPLOYEE

No Action Taken.

36.25 minute mark    Economic Development Director discussion?? - EXECUTIVE SESSION TO TALK ABOUT POSSIBLE EMPLOYMENT OF A COUNTY EMPLOYEE

No Action Taken

38.5  minute mark   Connie - Budget hearings 2011

40.5  minute mark   Bob Stonecash on average Federal employee making $123,000.

42  minute mark   Connie – on request to state to set up an economic development fund. Would be outside of General Fund and take about two months to get an answer back.

Commissioner Dave Wesler - I think that would be the right thing to do.

Connie – I will start that process on Monday.

43 minute mark on cd  

11.31 minutes – 5.27MB

File 8

Commissioner Stonecash – Anyone else have anything?

Commissioner Day – On budget and trip to Versailles that he and Commissioner Stonecash made. Most people (counties looking at reductions) accept Shelby County. Darke & Mercer looking at cuts and view around state does not look good for next year.

ADJOURN

46.25 minute mark on cd  

3.1 minutes – 1.45MB

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Preble County – Morning Had Open Government Law Class and Evening Had Possible ORC 307.862 Violation

Posted on August 25, 2010 by Jeff Golden

Interesting meeting.

File 3  has Katie Worthington in Commission Chambers to give a class to County officials on Open Government Law, sometimes known as Sunshine Law. These classes were a requirement of the settlement that Preble County lost a number of years ago. In an ironic twist of fate the victors in that Mandamus Action – Mary Bullen, Jane Marshall and Eric White were all present at the evening meeting that featured yet another issue involving not only the landfill but behavior that appears to violate ORC: 307.862  .  

File 8 has an extended and informative discussion on the Preble County Development Partnership. It covers the makeup of the Board and bylaws. The Preble County Chamber Executive Director and future Economic Development Director will both have nonvoting seat as they are employees.

File 9 has a discussion about what to do with GIS. Appears to be unanimity on the need but some question as to it and Tax Map being 40 hr. a week jobs.

The day closes with the evening "Information" meeting on the proposed route of leachate line that is supposed to go to Lakengren. At times heated but very revealing as to county politics and the will of the people.

Preble County, Ohio

County Commissioners

August 18, 2010

Meeting audio and review

All three Commissioners in attendance

File 1

I. OPEN MEETING

II. CALL OF ROLL

III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

IV. PRAYER

End 2.03 minute mark on CD – 482KB

File 2

V. PUBLIC COMMENTS

2   minute mark   Jay Cottingim – would like a written response to emails and to be part of the decision making team.

7.5 minute mark on cd  

5.34 minutes – 1.27MB

File 3

OHIO SUNSHINE LAW CLASS

7.5  minute mark     Commissioner Stonecash –  Good morning gang…. At this time Katie we will turn this over to you.

Katie Worthington –  Ohio Open Government Law class required because of settlement of Mandamus Action of Landfill Lease issue that was lost by the County a number of years ago. That case was brought and won by Mary Bullen, Jane Marshall and Eric White. The name of the group organized by Jane Marshall to oppose that Landfill Lease issue was called "CitizensForPrebleCounty".   All were in attendance at the evening meeting which also had Vaughn & Dawn Call from the earlier issue. Yes, that is how this website got the name.

37.5 minute mark on cd  

29.55 minutes – 6.85 MB

File 4

OHIO SUNSHINE LAW CLASS

1hr.  7.5 minute mark on cd  

30.00 minutes – 6.86 MB

File 5

OHIO SUNSHINE LAW CLASS

1hr.  19 minute mark on cd  

11.30 minutes – 2.63 MB

File 6

Audio from 1 hr.19 minute mark to 1hr. 31.75 not included (office noise with no meeting)

1hr.  33 minute mark     BACK IN SESSION

VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE JOURNALIZATION AND NOTE RECEIPT OF THE CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES FOR THE AUGUST 16TH REGULAR SESSION MEETING

1hr.  33.7 minute mark     

VII. FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS

A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #436-10-146

RE: AUTH. PAYMENT – SHERIFF ($507.00); TASC ($152.58); SPECIAL PROJECTSCT. TRAINING ($450.00); JFS ($3,225.00); WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ($13,659.98); EMA ($151.44)

B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #437-10-146

RE: TRANSFER OF FUNDS – VARIOUS DEPTS.

1hr.  37.5 minute mark on cd  

5.45 minutes – 1.31 MB

File 7

VIII. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF A REPORT FROM THE SHERIFF’S OFFICE

RE: MONTHLY JAIL REPORT – JULY 2010

Male admissions 113

Female admissions 14

Average daily count 42

1hr.  38.5 minute mark     IX. TRAVEL REQUESTS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING TRAVEL REQUESTS:

A. RES. #438-10-146 – SEAN MAGGARD – GIS  Cost not to exceed $655.84

B. RES. #439-10-146 – CHARLIE BIGGS & DAVID ANDERSON – EMA  Cost not to exceed $332

C. RES. #440-10-146 – COMMISSIONERS STONECASH, DAY & WESLER – COMMISSION   Cost not to exceed $ NO COST TO COUNTY

1hr.  40.5 minute mark     Probationary rate adjustment for John Jones Sanitary Facility Manager at Landfill. Hourly rate $25.75

1hr.  42 minute mark on cd  

4.355 minutes – 1.04 MB

File 8

Commissioner Bob Stonecash – Ok Connie do you have anything else for us?

EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE DISCIPLINE OF A COUNTY EMPLOYEE

EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE DISCIPLINE OF A COUNTY EMPLOYEE

No action taken

1hr.  47 minute mark     County Health Insurance discussion.

1hr.  49.6 minute mark     Commissioner Wesler – I talked with Josh briefly last week when we were at that conference and um he said it might be good if we had someone from CCAO – maybe him to give a presentation on the web turbines…. interest in southern Darke and northern Preble.

Discussion on wind turbines in the county and interest expressed by main stream company for 2000 kw wind farm.

1hr.  54.25 minute mark     Commissioner Bob Stonecash – Preble County Development Partnership.

Bylaws discussion.

Permanent seats went from 12 to 11.

Trustee & Board removal after two consecutive meetings. Good idea  

1hr.  58 minute mark     Only four meetings scheduled a year. I'd like to see every other month. Is this a resume padding seat or an involvement effort?

1hr.  58.5 minute mark     Chamber Executive Director  involvement to be as a nonvoting membership.

1hr.  59 minute mark     County Commissioners need to appoint someone by next meeting.

Commissioner Wesler recommends sitting President and acting County Administrator. Economic Development Director to also be on board as nonvoting member.   I agree neither should have a vote if the other does not.

2 hr.  2 minute mark     Five companies have committed to the $15,000, three others at the $2,500 level who would receive consideration for a Board seat. DP&L, Vectren and Cornerstone mentioned.

Municipalities can participate at $2.75 per population number.

2 hr.  3 minute mark     Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - … our contribution is just an Economic Development person and an office which will be somewhere around a hundred is that correct?  You guys agree with that? So there is our contribution. Eaton is participating at $2.75 per citizen. I think that you indicated that West Alexandria is going to participate at $2.75 a person. Lewisburg probably.

Commissioner Chris Day - they've committed

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - They've committed. The other villages I don't see being able to participate Camden could but after the leachate issue why would they?    Possibly and then they are talking about townships. So let's say Twin, let's just pick Twin comes in at $2.75 per person. Does our $2.75 per county resident cover West Alexandria, Eaton, Twin Township, Lewisburg or is this does this double it up? And maybe I've  Good question

Commissioner Chris Day - You mean getting hit twice across the board?

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - That's right. We're hitting $5.50 when

Commissioner Chris Day -  You are

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - and maybe that is ok with everybody, it's great that there is that much more money but ahh.

Commissioner Wesler - Well once again, this is voluntary. They volunteer to donate that much, nobody is mandating they that.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - That's correct, but I think it is worthy of note.

Commissioner Chris Day - Well we've had this discussion

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - I thought we had and

2 hr.  5 minute mark     Commissioner Chris Day - and we I believe was stated the county, we the county was taking the lead with the position of Economic Development Director in our role with the Partnership. You know that is our contribution. The City of Eaton

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - Which we would do no matter what.

Commissioner Chris Day -  The City of Eaton has agreed to step to the plate and get on board. Now it is up to as David said it is a voluntary thing if the other communities. Now, I can speak for West Alexandria alone and my body thought it was a very good investment.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - Good. Well that's the thing that, I mean we don't want to be joining if they don't think it is a good investment.

Commissioner Chris Day -  In our discussion last night as was brought up in these by-laws. Were the townships asked to give $2.75 and there was discussion that they were and weren't .

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - That is correct.

Commissioner Chris Day -  Matt sent me an email, I looked at it and he called me as I was walking in here. Originally it was presented $2.75 across the board

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - to the townships across the board right gottcha

Commissioner Chris Day - That's Eaton, municipalities and townships. Well their going now and this and Matt clarified this for me they are going to approach the townships and starting out at a quarter and seeing if they can just get buy in. But initially, it was sold and promoted at the $2.75 because they. The only reason I am clarifying that is there have been a few of these things that they have wavered back and forth on. And I know at the presentation when they came to Village they specifically said $2.75 so I don't want to have to go back and look like I've got egg on my face. So that was clarified. Now, I did attend the Mayors meeting after I left … anyhow the Mayor's meeting ahhm I believe it was Eldorado is that Tiana?

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - Tiana is Eldorado.

Commissioner Chris Day - I believe they are the one they are not going to be able to go with $2.75 but I think they have committed to like $600 a year. And I think one of the other ones was going to do something similar. They did pick a representative, Randy Kemper (Gratis) the Mayor's representative. As far as the townships go, you know some of the seats the Mayor's have a representative, the townships have a representative, the school Superintendents have a representative, so they are represented. The issue on the horizon is how many Board members actually reside in Preble County and face the consequences of the actions taken?   Ahh so does that answer your question?

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  -  Ahh yeah I just and that is fair for the townships. Ahh let's see, you got anything else you want to know about that?

Commissioner Wesler -  laughing

Commissioner Chris Day - Hopefully hopefully the by-laws will be approved

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  -  next meeting

Commissioner Chris Day - no a week from Tuesday.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  -  Yeah -next meeting

Commissioner Chris Day -  Oh I thought you said next week I am sorry.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - No

Commissioner Chris Day -  So hopefully because no one commented back and then we got everyone commenting at the meeting so my request was if you have a comment get them back to Dave so we can get them corrected.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  -  The changes are very minor

Commissioner Chris Day - I understand but they could have got this stuff ahead of time

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - Yes, yeah Mike could have. garbled

Commissioner Chris Day -  Hopefully we get that taken care of and moving forward.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  -  Do you have anything that we need to know about the library meeting the law library meeting?

2 hr.  9.4 minute mark on cd  

27.23 minutes – 6.26 MB

File 9

2 hr.  11 minute mark     Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - Jennifer Brunner will be down at the Board of Elections today at 2:30 if you want to stop in.

Commissioner Chris Day -  She voting?

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - She is looking for votes evidently.

Commissioner Chris Day - I thought maybe she was coming into vote in this county.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - She's messed it up pretty good so…oops

2 hr.  11 minute mark     Commissioner Chris Day - brings up GIS EXTENDED GIS DISCUSSION

What do we want to do with it?

2 hr.  14 minute mark     Tax map question. Question on paying for people of REA being legal.

2 hr.  16  minute mark     Dave Wesler brings up solution from a couple years ago.

Commissioners have been notified unofficially that the Auditor will not handle it next year.

2 hr.  17.2 minute mark     Commissioner Bob Stonecash  -

2 hr.  17.2 minute mark     Commissioner Wesler – REA has $467,000 in it right now and it has always hovered around a half a million.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - So what you are saying is that she can afford it.

2 hr.  19 minute mark     Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - We need to know the budget for GIS and map….

2 hr.  21 minute mark     Question on if these are 40 hr. a week jobs or if GIS can be combined with Tax Map.

2 hr.  23.5 minute mark     Commissioner David Wesler – If you just do the updates it is my opinion that it is probably not a full time job.

Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - I agree. And then I have that question, can we do anything about that if we create a new, I won't go there right now.

2 hr.  28 minute mark     Question on who should pay for it and relationship to cuts in other department budgets.

Commissioner Chris Day - brings up what West Alexandria is doing with GIS

Commissioner David Wesler -  asks who did the work for West Alex and Commissioner Day answers Sean Maggard did some of it.

2 hr.  30.75 minute mark     Commissioner Bob Stonecash  - on fear spreading from upstairs and what they will face tonight.

RECESS UNTIL EVENING MEETING

2 hr.  31.75 minute mark on cd  

22.32 minutes – 5.15 MB

File 10

6:30 P.M. – LANDFILL LEACHATE INFORMATIONAL MEETING

Opening comments by Commissioner Bob Stonecash

Transcript of this meeting .pdf file

2 hr.  34.6 minute mark on cd  

2.46 minutes – 651KB

File 11

This is a long meeting and it will be broken down into roughly 20 minute segments for downloading or listening. Please download the transcript as I will not be reviewing it until page 25.

2 hr.  55 minute mark on cd  

20.21 minutes – 4.66 MB

File 12

3 hr.  15 minute mark on cd  

20.03 minutes – 4.59 MB

File 13

3 hr.  35 minute mark on cd  

20.00 minutes – 4.58MB

File 14

3 hr.  55 minute mark on cd  

20.01 minutes – 6.26 MB

File 15

4 hr.  15.3 minute mark on cd  

20.18 minutes – 4.64 MB

File 15A

Kelly Doran & Steve Simmons exchange.  Steve Simmons admits on the record in front of witnesses that he had given out the Camden numbers at a REPUBLICAN CENTRAL COMMITTEE MEETING last summer. On that point alone the contract with Lakengren should be voided.

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Goose Creek Crossing To Bump Back Village Projects At Least A Year

Posted on August 24, 2010 by Jeff Golden

The August 16, 2010 General Fund Update given by Preble County Auditor Mindy Robbins put the cash balance at $2,425,840.62. For comparison, on August 21, 2009 the cash balance was put at $1,677,598.53. She continues to hope the end of year carry over is nothing below $800,000. The estimated cash balance as of January 6, 2010 – $1,369,000

The landfill monthly meeting revealed that 2500 tons of salmonella contaminated materials were being dumped.  To quote from the meeting audio “Ahh they kind of came in on us unexpected so they sent us over our —- in one day so more than likely we will be receiving a notice of violation for that day. We put in a request to increase our — temporarily to be able to accept those materials. The first day was kind of a mess if you will. They just started hauling in on us; we did not know exactly what was going on, or why it was happening.”

File 7 has the cost of hauling landfill leachate out of the county once again negatively impacting the ability to pay back money borrowed from the General Fund. The quote here is “Ahh going through our expense reports ahh we don't have a lot of choices on where to come up with money to cover the additional leachate generation for the rest of the year. And there is only one place and I know you are not wanting to hear where this needs to come from and that is the General Fund repayment. Unless somebody has a better idea on where to take money from but that is the only place. We have some money left in financial assurance but we have already taken out of that.. I think I have $150,000 appropriated for the ahh for the financial assurance but as I look through our expense reports there's just not anywhere for it to come from. So I think we are looking at close to $90,000 to get us through the rest of the year, at the current rate of generation.  Any unforeseen weather or circumstances so.”

File 9 should be of interest to those who attended the August 18, evening meeting as it discusses plans for that meeting.

File 10 reinforces my previous post on Goose Creek negatively impacting projects elsewhere in the county. To quote Preble County Commissioner Chris Day “Ahh the down side to that is we may have to bump some of the village projects back a year”  

Preble County, Ohio

County Commissioners

August 16, 2010

Meeting audio and review

All three Commissioners in attendance

File 1

I. OPEN MEETING

II. CALL OF ROLL

III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

IV. PRAYER

V. PUBLIC COMMENTS

VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE JOURNALIZATION & NOTE RECEIPT OF THE CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES FOR THE AUGUST 11TH REGULAR SESSION MEETING

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File 2

VII. APPROVAL OF VOUCHERS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE VOUCHERS AS SUBMITTED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR

VIII. FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS

A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #422-10-146

RE: AUTH. PAYMENT – COMMON PLEAS CT. ($441.96); ENGINEER ($480.12); JUVENILE CT. ($2,307.69; $1,573.16; $2,000.00; & $174.30); FELONY SUBSIDY ($5,230.44)

B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #423-10-146

RE: TRANSFER OF FUNDS – VARIOUS DEPTS.

C. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #424-10-146

RE: AUTH. EXPEND. – $2,928.00 FOR PURCHASE OF (2) DESKS & RELATED FURNITURE FOR JFS JOB CENTER – WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT

D. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #425-10-146

RE: AUTH. EXPEND. – $9,148.00 FOR PURCHASE OF CONFERENCE TABLE & CHAIRS FOR JFS JOB CENTER – WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT

E. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #426-10-146

RE: AUTH. EXPEND. – $10,147.00 FOR PURCHASE OF A SHARP BLACK & WHITE AND COLOR DIGITAL MULTI-FUNCTION COPIER FOR JFS JOB CENTER – WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT

F. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #434-10-146

RE: JUVENILE CT. – MAGISTRATE SPECIAL PROJECTS ($3,398.73)

G. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #435-10-146

RE: FILING LIST OF DELINQUENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO COUNTY AUDITOR FOR USER CHARGES FOR PCSD #2 PER ORC 6117.02

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File 3

14 minute mark      9:15 A.M. – MINDY ROBBINS (GENERAL FUND FINANCIAL UPDATE)

Cash Balance      August 16, 2010  -  $2,425,840.62

Cash balance on August 21, 2009  -  $1,677,598.53

Conveyance Receipts for month of August $3,052.60   since inception $87,557

17 minute mark      $44,000 more in real estate tax collected over last year

19.25   minute mark   Projected carry over at end of year … hopes nothing below $800,000. Preliminary estimate for sales tax in August up $44,000 over estimate.

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File 4

IX. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF A COURT ORDER FROM JUDGE DUES, JUVENILE COURT

RE: ORDER TO AUDITOR TO TRANSFER FUNDS FROM PROBATE CT. – SPECIAL PROJECTS TO JUVENILE CT. – MAGISTRATE SPECIAL PROJECTS

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A LETTER TO THE AUDITOR

RE: CERTIFICATION OF DITCH MAINTENANCE ASSESSMENTS

C. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN APPLICATION

RE: COURTHOUSE PLAZA USE PERMIT APPLICATION FOR UNITED WAY 2010 CAMPAIGN KICK-OFF ON SEPT. 4, 2010

D. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #427-10-146

RE: PROCLAIMING MONTH OF SEPTEMBER AS “ALCOHOL & DRUG ADDICTION RECOVERY MONTH” IN PREBLE COUNTY

E. NOTE RECEIPT OF (2) LETTERS FROM THE COUNTY ENGINEER

RE: RESIGNATION OF SUMMER HELP, AUSTIN HAWLEY & JORDAN MORROW

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File 5

X. BID RECOMMENDATION/ AWARD

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF A BID RECOMMENDATION FROM KRAMER & ASSOCIATES & CONSIDER AWARDING THE BID AS RECOMMENDED

RE: LEWISBURG-HORN ST. IMPROVEMENTS, PH. 2 – FY09 CDBG

XI. AGREEMENTS & CONTRACTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT REGARDING EMPLOYMENT VERIFICATION SERVICE PROGRAM W/ CCAO SERVICE CORP. – $3,000.00 – JFS

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: SUPPLYING & ERECTING STEEL TRUSS BRIDGE ON PRICE’S CREEK RD. OVER

PRICE’S CREEK AGREEMENT W/ U.S. BRIDGE – $372,000.00 (PRICE’S CREEK BRIDGE REPLACEMENT) & $25,317.00 (ENGINEER)

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File 6

9:30 A.M. – LANDFILL MONTHLY MEETING

35.5   minute mark   Landfill monthly meeting.  

35.75   minute mark   P&G dumping salmonella

Unknown – Last week we had the tonnage issue that I spoke with you about, I don't know if you shared it or.

Commissioner Stonecash – No ahh

We had P&G is cleaning out ingredients and materials that were recalled due to salmonella contamination. Ahh they kind of came in on us unexpected so they sent us over our —- in one day so more than likely we will be receiving a notice of violation for that day. We put in a request to increase our — temporarily to be able to accept those materials. The first day was kind of a mess if you will. They just started hauling in on us, we did not know exactly what was going on, or why it was happening. So we were working that first day to try and get a hold of somebody, the following day we were able to get a hold of somebody and we discussed it. They are working with us right now to keep us under our daily tonnage until we can get a temporary use. So they can get those materials as quick as possible, because they are shut down until everything is out of that facility, before they can get more materials in and restart production.

Steve Simmons – About how many tons are they estimating?

Unknown -They are estimating about 2500 tons of material.

Chris Day – What is the daily limit?

195 – 195 tons a day

Tom Barnes – How many did you take in that one day?

Unknown – Almost a hundred ton over that was what they brought in on us. We were at 280 something I believe

Chris Day – What are they bringing in? I mean what what?

Tom Barnes - It's product

Unknown – It's ahh

Dave Wesler – what are they hauling it in with?

Unknown – Roll of containers

Dave Wesler – .. How many more days are we looking at?

Unknown – ahh depending on if we can get that temporary increase, they can probably have it done in 10 or 15 working you know days. If we can get that increase, if not it is going to take them a lot longer and of course they're wanting to get it done as quick as possible. So they can utilize their facilities up there.

Dave Wesler – Sure

Tom Barnes - Did the district office give you any indication of how long it takes to get the temporary?

Unknown – It takes about two to three days so we hopefully will be here or Tuesday.

Steve Simmons – They typically grant those for 30 days. We had talked about raising our annual, I think our next one is up. I think the next one is up at 495 or 498

Tom Barnes -  It's close to 500 tons but there is a significant fee increase that goes along with that. Typically we don't generate that much tonnage in the county to justify that additional expense. This would have been better if we knew they were doing it.

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File 7

41.75   minute mark   Unknown - Leachate for ever are Achilies tendon.We are still producing more than what we would really care to. That is even bringing into another issue we are having ???? issues. I'll let Tom touch on that more.

Tom Barnes - Ahh going through our expense reports ahh we don't have a lot of choices on where to come up with money to cover the additional leachate generation for the rest of the year. And there is only one place and I know you are not wanting to hear where this needs to come from and that is the General Fund repayment. Unless somebody has a better idea on where to take money from but that is the only place. We have some money left in financial assurance but we have already taken out of that.. I think I have $150,000 appropriated for the ahh for the financial assurance but as I look through our expense reports there's just not anywhere for it to come from. So I think we are looking at close to $90,000 to get us through the rest of the year, at the current rate of generation.  Any unforeseen weather or circumstances so.

Steve Simmons – I'd say historically speaking number?

Tom Barnes - Yes it is. Yes it is.

Steve Simmons – And on the leachate demand .. a lot of variable but we are trying to project to get this thing online by the end of the year.

Chris Day – Where are we at with design?

Steve Simmons – We got preliminary drawings and Kyle brought a set of those. Of course I guess we will get into those a little bit more after bit.

44  minute mark   I think that we are not all that far. I don't know if Jeff has said anything to anybody about about this.

Unknown – I haven't been in contact with Jeff late last week or this week so far.

Commissioner Wesler - And this is your gallons per day?

Tom Barnes - That's an average gallon per day

Commissioner Wesler - But still as an average it is down considerably from last year and the year before.

Tom Barnes - Well this year it is not through the whole year yet

46 minute mark    Steve Simmons – Additional funds need $220,000?

46.7 minute mark    Steve Simmons – So when will we run out of appropriations?

Tom Barnes - last week.

46.7 minute mark    Bob Stonecash asks about the $100,000 pay back.

47.75 minute mark    Commissioner Wesler - Last year it took $395,000 (leachate cost) … the leachate would be up and going by that time.

50.75 minute mark    Tom Barnes - As you recall Eastman & Smith did some negotiations on our behalf's that were unprecedented.  So with that being said.

51.5 minute mark    Steve Simmons – You know we get the leachate pumping over there that is $700 a day in savings roughly.

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File 8

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File 9

1 hr. 16.5 minute mark    Steve Simmons – I guess what we need to decide is what we are going to talk about for this meeting on Wednesday night.

Bob Stonecash –  We need to stay on course and talk about the plans. My concern is that folks would like to side track us into a side show. I imagine several questions from this letter that has been put out there with called false information. The people that I have talked to have been more than happy…… once it is explained to them.. one gentleman that I want to make sure you boys have covered your rear.

Steve Simmons – I don't know if you can ever do that

Bob Stonecash –  Another one that ahh the EPA has monitored every move we made so that's all covered

Steve Simmons – Ok ahh, you probably want me to run this meeting

Bob Stonecash – mmmhh I thought I might just give a little introduction and turn it over to you. You guys are the ones that are ???

Steve Simmons –  What I thought about doing. I have not completely though this through. I thought we would have a full set of these preliminary plans that you know we wouldn't go through page by page but if somebody wanted to see what was happening in front of their place that after the meeting they could probably get one of us and probably talk about it. I was also thinking about..John somewhere we got probably a piece of HTPE

John – It is sitting right in our office

1 hr. 19.5 minute mark    Steve Simmons –  John, I would like for you to talk about how the connections are made. I think one of the big things that we will talk about is that this will be directional bored as much as possible.

1 hr. 20.5 minute mark    Steve Simmons –   You are good at history Tom

Tom Barnes - I don't know that there is a lot of history with this.

Steve Simmons –   that is good. you might give a little ahh explanation of why we decide to ahh maybe go away from hauling and go to ahh a force main local treatment plant. I wouldn't give them much more than that.

Tom Barnes -  Yeah

Steve Simmons – I wouldn't even mention unless you guys want to about our RFP process because that is a done deal right?

Bob Stonecash – That is not the purpose of the meeting

Chris Day –   I think that when Bob opens up he needs to address that we are not here to discuss anything but getting this line from here to Lakengren

Bob Stonecash –  and during the course of the meeting if people try and direct it that way tell them we are not here for that purpose.

Steve Simmons – Ok and ahm

1 hr. 25  minute mark    Tom Barnes -  people are concerned about metals.

Bob Stonecash –  questions about wells

1 hr. 27.3  minute mark    Steve Simmons –  you know we got the Cottingim letter, I don't know that we ought to respond to to that stuff. I'm no environmental engineer, it has all been EPA approved.

Tom Barnes - As far as the risk management… his concern, that is something that we're not required to do and so. If asks. I am not going to bring it up anywhere, but if he asks it. It is not part of the EPA requirements and so we probably won't do a risk assessment

1 hr. 28  minute mark    Chris Day – It's going to come up basically. I think the management of that is we are looking at a lot of what-if scenarios here and at this point in time if something comes up, we got people that are employees that are educated on what to do here by working with the EPA to do make the appropriate ahh corrections responses whatever that is.

Steve Simmons –  If we develop a leak, we go out and fix it and the EPA will be notified that is why we carry insurance. I don't know what else to say. I mean like you say we could get into all these what-ifs but all you're going to do is confuse things I think. Then maybe I am looking at it wrong, I don't know.

1 hr. 29.5  minute mark    Steve Simmons –  you know one thing we might do is put markers along the way…

1 hr. 30.5  minute mark    Steve Simmons – I don't see it being very long on our part. We get into the questions and we may not have all the answers.

1 hr. 30.75  minute mark     Steve Simmons –  What do we want to prepare for the audience? Just an agenda?

Chris Day -   I don't know what you can give them that wouldn't confuse em.

Steve Simmons –  yeh

Tom Barnes - If they need information we could provide it to them after the meeting.

Chris Day -   If they ask for specific information but if John hands out that….

1 hr. 31.5  minute mark     Dave Wesler - Are you going to hand out this package here.

Tom Barnes -  No

Dave Wesler -   I was going to say this shows every residential property it crosses.

1 hr. 31.5  minute mark     Tom Barnes -  what order

Steve Simmons –  Bob will open and turn it over to me.

Bob Stonecash –  a continuation of business from Wednesday afternoon. I'll just state that we are back from our afternoon session.

Steve Simmons –  for an informational meeting

1 hr. 31.5  minute mark     

1 hr. 34  minute mark     garbled – Camden

1 hr. 34.75  minute mark     Phone call concern over property value.

1 hr. 35.5  minute mark     Air vents…. 10,000 gallons a day… 4ft. deep… bore stream crossings….

1 hr. 37  minute mark    It will all be on county owned property or right of way.

1 hr. 37.75  minute mark    Dave Wesler - how wide is the right of way?

1 hr. 38  minute mark     Steve Simmons –   I think Mann is only 33 ft. deep. There is not a whole lot of right of way.

1 hr. 40 minute mark    Anything else as far as landfill?

EXECUTIVE SESSION ABOUT POSSIBLE COMPENSATION OF A PUBLIC OFFICIAL

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File 10

11:00 A.M. – ENGINEER’S MONTHLY MEETING

1 hr. 45.5  minute mark    Steve Simmons –   At the Village – Township meeting, I don't know if you are going to be there Chris or not.  Ahhm and maybe we don't, but it needs to be addressed though about Goose Creek with the Village and Township people. I think it need to be addressed at that meeting on Tuesday night. How we want to do that I don't know. We kind of need the position of the Commissioners on this also.

Chris Day –   Yeah we got to… funding options for the water and waste water of this Issue 2 Project. We met a ???? Frank Leon, he's given two applications, one is for a grant loan and the other one is strictly loan. Ahh I really haven't seen what he ended up with ?????? going strictly ahh for money for the waste water safe on this. Because of the way the application is scored. Ahhm and if we want to try and get that in this funding cycle we need have conversation with the villages and see if we can go with that project out there and what their thoughts are on that. I plan on attending I mean I don't have a problem attending. I can speak to it that is fine.

1 hr. 47  minute mark    but one of the options that we had going into Goose Creek was ahh if we go for Issue 2 money for this coming cycle which puts everything and starts the ball rolling here. Ahh the down side to that is we may have to bump some of the village projects back a year    and ??? help on it.  That is my thought.

Steve Simmons –  That is what we have done in the past……

Chris Day –  That's the kind of thought process we had in this direction with Frank when we met with him on this. If we have two applications laying there and depending on the bulk could be all loan it could be some grant money put in there some ??? assistance money, basically the loan assistance would basically pay the

Steve Simmons – The first two years of capitalized interest is I think is the correct phrasing of it.

Chris Day –  It basically gives us two more years to of breathing room to get this up and runnin so ahh Steve and I have met with Frank and we discussed it ??? this project as an option

Steve Simmons – Then the meeting on Monday Bob we will take a look at the rank and score village and townships projects and then by that time we would have the city projects scored and we would have the county projects scored. Then we have to develop our our ahh list and then we award county priority points 5-10-15 is what I think it is. Or somethin I don't know, it changes all the time but we got to award county priority points

Chris Day – I think it is 5-10-15

Steve Simmons –  There for a while it was like 5-10-15 or 20 or 25 or something but

Chris Day –  There was a 12 in there at some point in time I forget.

Steve Simmons –  We go to award some points it's on the scoring sheet.

Chris Day –  So I plan on attending

Steve Simmons –  That's good. I think it would be good for the Commissioners to present that.

1 hr.  50 minute mark    Commissioner Stonecash – What else we got?

Kyle Cross - 2010 resurfacing project has been started

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File 11

XII. TRAVEL REQUESTS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING TRAVEL REQUESTS:

A. RES. #428-10-146 – TRACY BRADFORD – JFS   Cost not to exceed $20

B. RES. #429-10-146 – LESLIE THOMAS – JFS   Cost not to exceed $10

C. RES. #430-10-146 – LINDA HALE & JULIA MILLIKIN – JFS     Cost not to exceed $20

D. RES. #431-10-146 – KYLE CROSS & MATT VENABLE – ENGINEER   Cost not to exceed $270

E. RES. #432-10-146 – LINDA HALE & JULIA MILLIKIN – JFS   Cost not to exceed $20

F. RES. #433-10-146 – CHARITY LORANZAN – JFS    Cost not to exceed $10

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File 12

Connie – I have these three Executive Sessions

2 hr.  7.25 minute mark    EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE EMPLOYMENT OF A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE.

No action taken

2 hr.  8  minute mark    EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE DISCIPLINE OF A COUNTY EMPLOYEE

Out of session

2 hr.  8.75  minute mark    EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE DISCIPLINE OF A COUNTY EMPLOYEE

Out of session – no action taken

Commissioner Stonecash – Connie would you schedule that meeting for this afternoon? We will discuss the situation then.

2 hr.  10.25  minute mark    RECESS UNTIL 1:30

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File 13

Back in session at about 1:45 p.m.

2 hr.  10.75  minute mark    EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS TO DISCUSS PERSONEL ISSUES WITH MARTY BRESHER

restated as POSSIBLE DISCIPLINARY ACTION

Out of session

Commissioner Stonecash – Connie would you prepare the necessary paperwork after we talked to Marty Bresher about violations of the Personnel Policy and failure to turn in the necessary paperwork for time off. Where we have found that we would give her a 10 day suspension without pay and that that time has already been served.  Due to the two weeks that she was off during the last couple weeks. That covered? And have her prepare the necessary paperwork and have her sign it.

Commissioner Wesler – I agree with that.

2 hr.  13 minute mark   Commissioner Stonecash –  What else do we have today?

2 hr.  13.25 minute mark     Commissioner Stonecash – whispering – She really didn't want to talk to me today

Chris Day – laughing

mumbling back and forth between Chris & Bob

2 hr.  13.75 minute mark     Commissioner Stonecash - A letter from the Farm Bureau here: As a special friend of our organaization you are invited to attend the annual Preble County Farm Bureau meeting on August 29,

Chris Day – Yeah I saw that.

Connie – Employee Handbook update

2 hr.  17 minute mark    

Chris Day – It seems that we have had a rash of a

Commissioner Stonecash - people that don't know the policy.

2 hr.  19 minute mark    Commissioner Stonecash -  suggests that employees have to sign for new handbook that they have read it.

2 hr.  20 minute mark    Connie on gov deals

2 hr.  27 minute mark     SEVCO sp?? September 8, at 10:30 health insurance presentation. Serves 22 counties.

2 hr.  29 minute mark     Brian Moore sp? successfully completed probationary period $13.77 per hour

2 hr.  30 minute mark     Email from Mr. Grim mentioned

2 hr.  31 minute mark     EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS THE EMPLOYMENT OF AN EMPLOYEE

NO ACTION TAKEN

2 hr.  32 minute mark     Discussion of COST FOR people "on call" at JFS for weekends.  

2 hr.  35 minute mark     David Wesler wants to go to Farm Science review September 21, at 10:30

2 hr.  36 minute mark     David – Question on phones

2 hr.  36.6 minute mark     Commissioner Chris Day - cell phone goes off in chambers. Hello Dave, can I call you back in just a few minutes?

2 hr.  36.6 minute mark     discussion continues on cost of phones between David & Connie.

2 hr.  38 minute mark     Commissioner Stonecash asks Chris Day about a grading scale.

2 hr.  39.75 minute mark     Commissioner Stonecash -  where does it state that we have to furnish hair cuts for inmates? Maybe they should give each other haircuts?

2 hr.  40 minute mark     $180 haircuts. Discussion on medical costs and people getting thrown in jail for treatment.

2 hr.  41 minute mark     Commissioner Chris Day - Have we heard anything back from Dr. Wright since the Fair?

Commissioner Wesler – I haven't.

Commissioner Chris Day - How long are we gonna give him?

Commissioner Wesler – He said he was gonna email or call when he got back from vacation which was he ought to be off by now.

Commissioner Stonecash - Have you heard how the 4H fundraiser is going?

Commissioner Wesler –  I heard it was going ok but I didn't hear specifics.

ADJOURN

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A Note To The Preble County Chamber and Preble County Development Partnership

Posted on August 20, 2010 by Jeff Golden
TAKE A STAND…

 

You are to be congratulated on raising $780,000 for economic development purposes.

You now need your collective rear-ends kicked from Eaton to the County line for not taking a stand on the leachate line issue. Here is the Preble Development Partnership’s Mission Statement:

"To advance, encourage, and promote the industrial, commercial, and civic development of Preble County."

While you take a victory lap, the future economic development prospects of this county take a generational hit with actions that filled the Preble County Commission Chamber with angry residents upset at the route chosen. Actions speak louder than words and photo-ops. The Preble Chamber Board and the new Development Partnership need to get off their butts and put up or be taken to task for standing idly by.

It is time to stop slapping yourselves on the back for raising the money and do something to justify the faith of those who provided the money.

There is an Economic Development opportunity being squandered by three bumbling commissioners. Their group togetherness claims of working together for the good of the county are hollow statements in the face of actions that betray their words.

There is rail available at Camden; the Preble County Engineer is on record repeatedly on record calling the area between the Landfill and Camden the best area for development in the county.

Leading Economic Development officials of the State of Ohio asked Preble County Commissioners about the availability of rail on January 25, 2010  . Our leadership betrayed the trust that got them elected and never mentioned that earlier in the day they had turned their backs on just such an opportunity. Fate presented an opportunity and Preble County Commissioners turned their backs on Camden and against citizens on a rural route.

No claims of a need to “educate” the public will address what the public can clearly see as right and wrong.

Take a public stand for the fine goals of your mission statement or have inaction and silence speak for you.

Side with Economic Development, Side with Industrial Development, Side with Rail access, Side with the prospect of good paying jobs, Side with the residents of a rural route in fear of water well contamination, Side with Camden and Side with the Citizens of Preble County.

TAKE A STAND  

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In Support OF Kelly Doran, The Village of Camden And Economic Development In Preble County

Posted on August 19, 2010 by Jeff Golden

The August 18, 2010 evening meeting of the Preble County Commissioners took place in front of packed Commissioner Chamber and a crowd that overflowed into the Commission reception area.

This review is being written before receiving the cd record of this week’s meetings. It is being written in support of Kelly Doran, Camden and the citizens of Preble County. A grave injustice has occurred here, people should be concerned, troubled and feel compelled to take action.

This was to be an informative meeting for residents that live along the proposed route of a leachate line from the Preble County Landfill to a manhole at Lakengren. 

There were many good questions put forth by many good and concerned citizens. There was also an often repeated attempt to shut down anyone trying to inform those in attendance of an alternative route that would alleviate their warranted concerns.  That route is south along Rt. 127 to Camden.  As stated by Camden Councilman Kelly Doran there is ample reason for not only questioning the scoring system that led to this travesty but also the treatment of Camden. Unfortunately the whole of the county suffers as a result.  In support of that statement, Mr. Doran, The Village of Camden and the Citizens of Preble County please take the time to not only review the information provided but also pass it along. This is an election year, do not sit idly by and hope for change, get out and vote for it. Think independent, be independent and vote independent.

Mr. Doran is a Camden Councilman and the statements he made were correct.  To begin with the $1,500,000 loan to pay for this leachate line was applied for with Camden as the given destination.  An “APPLICATION FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE” dated July 22, 2008 is provided in the .pdf file link. 

The contact listed on Page 1 is Preble County Engineer Steve Simmons, his phone number, fax number and email are provided.

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Page 4 gives the “SPECIFIC LOCATION” as beginning at the Preble County Landfill and ending at the north end of the Village of Camden, Oh.

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Page five has the “PROJECT OFFICIALS” listed as Chief Executive Officer David Wesler.

The “Chief Financial Officer” is listed as Mindy Robbins – Preble County Auditor.

The “Project Manager” is listed as J. Stephen Simmons – Preble County Engineer

Page 8 of the agreement was also signed by all three of the Preble County Commissioners in office on October 6, 2008.

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Camden had every reason to believe they had an agreement. The audio cd record of multiple Preble County Commission meetings repeatedly re-enforces that claim. The statements of the Preble County Engineer refer to the area to be opened up at Camden for industrial development as the best in the county.  

There is much more that can be written on this issue and it will be but I am still reviewing cds pertaining to this issue and have a backlog of.pdf files that need put in order also.  A great deal of information will be forthcoming, read it, listen to it and by all means possible pass it along to your friends, neighbors and any news media you come in contact with.  This is an issue of the utmost importance to the economic future of Preble County and her citizens.

Change is needed, call for it, fight for it and vote for it. 

In addition to the signed agreement provided please review the March 16, 2005 & October 11, 2006 meeting information provided below:

Preble County, Ohio

County Commissioners

March 16, 2005

Meeting audio and review

File 1

3 hr.    50.25 minute mark on cd  

8.32 minutes – 1.95MB

End – 3 hr. 58.25.

3 hr.   50.25 minute mark      Tom Barnes: The next thing was that I had was on the leachate. I don't know if there is anything outstanding that you need to look at. I just thought you would be curious to know where we're running for the year..

Dave Wesler - When is the test?  The test in Camden?

Tom Barnes - Ahh it is taking place right now. They started Monday ahh they hauled two loads down there Monday. They drained our tanks and they came back up today and they hauled another load down. I spoke with ahh one of the operators down in Camden plant they were up, they grabbed some samples Monday when they were dumping down there and they sent those off to Belmont Labs for analysis. Basically checking the DOD sp?? which is the organic content of it and the ammonia content of it. Because they said there was a noticeable difference in the amount of oxygen in their aeration tank after their plant after the leachate hit their system. It wasn't anything that caused a problem but there was a significant decrease in it.  So they are just kind of monitoring it , they said they would be willing to do this for two - three – four weeks whatever we felt was necessary to get a true test of how it is going to affect the plant. Steve and I kind of talked about this, if dumping the leachate into has an effect on their oxygen levels in their treatment plant then maybe we could come up with some type of a pretreatment system, whether it be aeration or something to help them out. In the long run it would still be cost effective I believe to pre-treat and then pump it down to Camden. Just because we are going to save four cents a gallon on transportation, which could even be higher in the future the way fuel prices are going. So you look at the life of the landfill plus the 30 year post closure period I think it would be well worth our while to put in some type of pretreatment to be ship it down there in..

Bill Withrow – And I assume you would pump that at a slower rate than you would dump the truck. Right?

Steve Simmons - Well we're trying to put in there about the rate we would be pumping it now.

Bill Withrow – I see, so you're testing that type..

Tom Barnes - When we sent a truck down there he'd been kind of timing it and he's been dumping off around 6500 gallons and it usually takes him about an hour and fifteen minute to an hour and thirty minutes to dump it off. Which I is still probably a little bit quicker than we would be pumping it down there if we had a pumps you know set up on a float system where we could ahh make it a little bit more equal throughout a twenty four hour period. So, but it is more realistic than the what we did the first time.

Dave Wesler - Yeah

Ken Moreland - gravity flow line or do you have to pump it?

3 hr.   53.25 minute mark      Tom Barnes –  I think it would have to be a pump line or a force main so far down and then that would be more or less up to us at what point we would want to terminate the pressure line and go to a gravity line and that would  have a lot to do with the development.

Steve Simmons - What I was thinking Ken was you know that area between 127 and the railroad is prime heavy industrial ground and that if the Camden City fathers felt fit they could run.. we could make a part of this project running with gravity from there where they area at at Gary Harshes sp?? running it up as far north as what we could for what they wanted to do. We would pay for the force main cost and then they would pay for anything additional when it came to the gravity. Then that way ahh they could go clear up to the top of the hill if they wanted. Then that would allow them to be able to if they get water out there to be able to allow them to put their heavy industry there and that would be a win for them.

Ken Moreland - That's where I was coming from.

Steve Simmons - And it is a win for us

Ken Moreland - and has there been discussion on that to a certain extent?

Steve Simmons - We were at a Council meeting when …was that last spring now or

Tom Barnes - It would have been about a year ago yes.

Steve Simmons - It was about a year ago when we presented this I would think

Ken Moreland - So you would be looking at, you are going to have to digging the trench anyway. So instead of putting the small line which is a force line you would put a larger gravity fed and they pay the difference of that so that is kind of what you were thinking?

Steve Simmons - Now you know I… blessing on this.

Bill Withrow – Well a gravity would start just about the old Stowe sp?? farm. Which is on the right before you go down over the hill. Right next to where the guy built the new building on

Ken Moreland - Right across from the new Garrett house.

Bill Withrow –  Yeah

Steve Simmons - Yeah you could probably get all that gravity down to Camden

Bill Withrow –  That  is my old stomping ground.

3 hr.   55.25 minute mark     Steve Simmons - Ken Moreland - How close can you put a water line to a sanitary line?

Steve Simmons - Ahhhh what is it ten feet?

Tom Barnes -  It is ten feet horizontal and I think three feet vertical.

Steve Simmons - two or three feet

Ken Moreland - You know if we had the equipment there already digging they could do that. If you already got the equipment there yo dig this trench, you move over and digg that trench they could put all of that in..

Tom Barnes -  I think it would be.. put one on each side of the road in order to allow for that separation.

Bill Withrow –  They did not do that when they ran the sewer did they? Back two or three years ago, when they ran it north to the

Steve Simmons - No they had the sewer down along the railroad tracks at seven mile I think, didn't they?

Bill Withrow – Ahh it actually went up old 227 and correct me if I am wrong. Did that go all the way to the trailer park?

Tom Barnes - Yes, they went through that what is the street there that Camden Coil

Bill Withrow – Barnetts Mill

Tom Barnes - Then they went through that subdivision there on the north side

Bill Withrow – Well I know for a fact that to Barnetts Mill road that they was on the east side of 227.

Tom Barnes -  That's right and then it goes all the way up to..

Bill Withrow – It was extremely deep.

Tom Barnes -  Yes

Bill Withrow – Extremely deep. They told me the footage but I don't want to repeat it because it might be more or less than I thought.

Steve Simmons - What I really wanted to do to is instill in their mind that have you know thought about the category of the land use? There, I wanted to get them thinking about the higher level level of land use with heavy industrial instead of just allowing housing to go in there. You know they get more tax money from the industry going in there

Ken Moreland - Definitely

Steve Simmons - So if that makes sense to everybody if you see anybody from Camden just kind of keep pushing that so that they don't put housing

Bill Withrow – Well we had a tour of a business in Camden that is hooked on to that sewer, his take on it is they area anti business down there. I don't agree with that. I think anybody that is in  government is not anti business but that was just one person's take on it. He owns said look across the street at that mess we got over there and nobody will make them clean it up. Well..

Steve Simmons - You got to crawl before you walk.

Bill Withrow – Yeah

Ken Moreland - I think where it is at where they are coming from they think they are anti if they are not doing something for the existing businesses.

Bill Withrow – I agree because..

Ken Moreland - I think they are from what I know is their long term look I think they realize the need for future in addition. I do think there has to be a median, you have to help the people the people you have there to keep them to. But, I don't think they are being anti industry but they may not be focused on their existing industry as much as they should be.

Bill Withrow – Well I would say that is accurate.

Tom Barnes -  Well I'll move on to my next agenda item..

 

Preble County, Ohio

County Commissioners

October 11, 2006

Meeting audio and review

File 1

3 hr.   16.3 minute mark     Landfill tonnage reports

3 hr.   17.75 minute mark     Leachate

3 hr.   18.50 minute mark     Tom Barnes -  I attached a separate spreadsheet regarding leachate and I don't know if you are interested or not but just a comparison since we from year to year of you know it has got a price and the total gallons and actual cost since 1997 when we started collecting leachate. I don't know if that is really interesting information but I …

Bill Withrow –  It is because I am sitting here thinking Steve told us some time ago that if Camden could process it would cost $600,000 to run a line and we have already spent a $1,600,000.

Tom Barnes –  mmhmm.

Bill Withrow – That's what keep running through my mind.

Tom Barnes –  Right

Steve Simmons -   And we can get into that latter but when we find out about our PTI and get that through and stuff like that. I told Wes yesterday, that is the next project we want to be starting. But it is no use getting that strated until we find out exactly what we are doing with the PTI.

Jane Marhsall – now wait a minute, why?

Steve Simmons -  Because, if you have more trash you have more, you may have more leachate.

Jane Marhsall –  So your sizing the line because that is the only reason. Just for sizing is what you are talking about.

3 hr.   20 minute mark     Tom Barnes – While we are talking about that you know, part of what Malcom Pirnie needs to know at this point in time is they're preparing the documents for the submittal is ahh. They have to do one of two things, they either have to design it to go to a force main somewhere or we have to size bigger tanks ahh collection tanks. So they need a little direction which way to go as far as how they are going to design this stuff. Steve and I both indicated to Wes that we would like to see it go to Camden.

Unknown –  Yeah I agree

Tom Barnes –  So I think that is what they are going to work towards

Dave Wesler – Ok

Tom Barnes –  Now when we do it I think that's what you kind of relating to.

Steve Simmons -  Yeah Yeah we will do it., unless something comes up. It's Camden's intention and our intention is to do it.

Jane Marhsall –  Camden had the capacity?

Steve Simmons -  We just kind of need to feed it slow and that would give them a ?????

Bill Withrow –  And you have , you  have explained the process of how you intend to do that. Feed it slow?

Steve Simmons -  Yeah, Tom has been in contact with them Camden people about it

Tom Barnes –  Yeah if you I don't know if you were here when we did the trials ? We actually hauled some leachate down, we took 6000 or 6500 gallons down and just wooshed it

Jane Marhsall –  and that didn't work well.

Tom Barnes –  That didn't work while. So the next time we fed it slow and they had no problems what so ever accepting that. I think the first time ahh what really caused the problem was they were just hauling and hauling down there and they actually sucked a bunch sluggish stuff off the bottom of our tanks because there are a lot of solids that collect in our holding tanks and I sucked them dry and they got a big slug of nasty stuff that caused a little bit of an upset when that hit the plant.

Bill Withrow –  it gave the bugs some heart burn

Tom Barnes –  yeah I think that might have been part of the problem the first time that is why we went to t the option B which was to feed it real slow and see if that caused a problem. So, which it didn't. I am optimistic that they should be able to handle it.

Steve Simmons - Do we know how gallons a minute that they can handle?  Because that may come in with a force main tanks and all that other

Tom Barnes –  That may change with the new leachate calculations per modification. I wish I could remember that , I didn't know you were going to ask that but I did know at one time

Steve Simmons - We may have to just

Jane Marhsall – You mean you can't

Tom Barnes –  No not always, there are a lot of things going around in it.

Bill Withrow –  If I remember correctly the plan was to introduce it into their system just above Camden at their sewer line?

Tom Barnes –  Yeah at the most northern part of the collection system that we can access.  

Bill Withrow –  and the was the way you were going to introduce it into there was to down size the pipe?

Tom Barnes –  I thought we talked a couple different things. I thought we were talking about running a force main to the point that we could drop into gravity and let gravity flow it down whatever section of 127 that

Steve Simmons - I think it ought to be a joint venture between us and Camden because they can possibly extend their sewer north as far as they want to. And my recommendation at that time was if, it is probably going to cost more to put in the sanitary than it will the force main and then they would pay the difference to run the sanitary as far as they wanted to run it. Which would then open up developable ground or whatever want.

Bill Withrow – They're at the mobile home park now? That is as far north as they go?

Steve Simmons - Right. Right there at ahh

Tom Barnes –  Jerry Harshes

Steve Simmons - So

Bill Withrow – Are they on both sides of 127?

Steve Simmons - Let's see you know, there is a perfect place to me for heavy commercial – light industrial even heavy industrial between the railroad and 127. That makes more sense to me than anywhere in the county.    With the railroad being right there so they got water fairly close and if they can their sanitary on up the hill and that should open that up for it.

Tom Barnes –  I have already had questions as to when we were going to do this because there are property owners interested in some development there on the east side of 127 just north of the park so…

Bill Withrow –  Yeah that land has been speculated for the last ten years.

Tom Barnes –  Yeah so there interest in it anyway but hopefully here in the near future we will be able to get started on that.

Steve Simmons - we could pay approximately half. You know we'd have to pay say we have to pay for electricity, probably pay for the construction of it. But 5-6-7 years

Bill Withrow – If you save $80,000 a year even with interest

Jane Marhsall –  It'll pay off easy.

Bill Withrow – In 7-8-9 years it would

Jane Marhsall –  It would help Camden in the process.

Steve Simmons - Yeah cause they'd be getting the revenue from treating it.

Jane Marhsall –  and any additional that they could get from the neighbors. A win – win.

Tom Barnes –  Well currently we are paying 4 cents just for treatment. We might as well pay Camden the 4 cents cause

Jane Marhsall – Sure

Steve Simmons - keep it in the county

Jane Marhsall –  and you think that they could do it for about that?

Tom Barnes –  Oh I would think so yeah

Jane Marhsall – and still make some money at it?

Tom Barnes –  Yeah

Steve Simmons - The normal had been about three or the average had been about three.

Tom Barnes –  I had heard as low as 2 cents depending on what facility you are talking about and then their plant process with that. But then you know we're looking at how many gallons are we producing? A couple million gallons at roughly 4 1/4 cents a gallon for trucking. You know that would all be savings that we could apply towards a deal like the installation of the force main itself.

Tom Barnes –   Plus see we still have to take care of leachate for thirty years after its closed.

3 hr.   26 minute mark     Tom Barnes –  So today you are looking at 60 years that we are going to be hauling leachate. If we were to get the modification an additional 20 years

Bill Withrow – Believe it or not I won't care in 60 years.

Tom Barnes –  I am pretty sure that I won't either. We just don't want them talking bad about us.

Steve Simmons - Of course they will anyway won't they.

Bill Withrow – Ok anyway a little bit on the PCSD #3

3 hr.  16.3 minute mark on cd  

10.23 minutes – 2.37MB

End – 3 hr. 26.75.

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Preble County Conveyance Fee Increase Has Raised $86,222 Since September 2009

Posted on August 13, 2010 by Jeff Golden

Of note for this meeting is that once again there is no adjournment and the final two meetings on the Agenda for the day are not included in the audio. The Commissioners had a 1:00 p.m. meeting in Wilmington and had planned to leave at 11:00.

There has been a "spike" in the auditing costs by State of Ohio Auditors. Because of new Federal guide lines there has been a more extensive audit of JFS programs. No totals were given on the audio but the spike was attrbuted to doing seven programs at once this year. The future audits of those programs will be spread out over three years so no one year should involve doing all seven again. There was an attempt and a motion to go into Executive Session to discuss the issue but that was with drawn and the meetig minus spoken figures was held in open chambers.

The Conveyance fee that was hiked at the end of last August and took effect in September of 2009 has raised $86,222 through July of 2010.

 

Preble County, Ohio

County Commissioners

August 9, 2010

Meeting audio and review

All three Commissioners in attendance

File 1

I. OPEN MEETING

II. CALL OF ROLL

III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

IV. PRAYER

V. PUBLIC COMMENTS

VI. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE JOURNALIZATION & NOTE

RECEIPT OF THE CD RECORDATION BOTH AS THE OFFICIAL MINUTES FOR THE AUGUST 4TH

REGULAR SESSION MEETING

VII. APPROVAL OF VOUCHERS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING THE VOUCHERS AS SUBMITTED BY THE COUNTY AUDITOR

End 5.06 minute mark on CD – 1.16MB

File 2

VIII. FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS

A. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #411-10-146

RE: AUTH. PAYMENT – JFS ($375.10 & $2,500.00); JUV. CT. ($115.27); SHERIFF

($393.00); & FCFC PARTNERSHIP FOR SUCCESS ($4,090.88)

B. CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RES. #412-10-146

RE: TRANSFER OF FUNDS – VARIOUS DEPTS.

8.25 minute mark on cd  

3.11 minutes – 746KB

File 3

IX. CORRESPONDENCE & REPORTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING A LETTER TO THE PAYROLL CLERK

RE: HIRE OF JEFFERY ADKINS AS SOCIAL SVS. SUPERVISOR II

B. NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A LEGAL AD, BID SPECS & BID FORM

RE: GRATIS-SOUTH ST. WATERLINE IMPROVEMENTS – FY09 CDBG

C. NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A LEGAL AD, BID SPECS & BID FORM

RE: GRATIS-EAST ST. NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENTS – FY09 NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION

11.25 minute mark on cd  

2.54 minutes – 682KB

File 4

X. AGREEMENTS & CONTRACTS

A. NOTE RECEIPT OF & CONSIDER APPROVAL BY SIGNING AN AGREEMENT

RE: SOFTWARE MAINT. AGREEMENT W/ MAXIMUS – $3,225.00 – JFS

B. NOTE RECEIPT OF AN EXECUTED AGREEMENT

RE: RIGHT-OF-WAY AGREEMENT W/ ODNR – CAMDEN COLLEGE CORNER RD. BRIDGE REPLACEMENT – ENGINEER

C. NOTE RECEIPT OF AN EXECUTED AGREEMENT

RE: LPA FEDERAL LOCAL-LET PROJECT AGREEMENT W/ ODOT – JUNCTION RD. & KETTERMAN RD. BRIDGES – ENGINEER

13.6 minute mark on cd  

2.27 minutes – 575KB

File 5

XI. TRAVEL REQUESTS

NOTE RECEIPT & CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FOLLOWING TRAVEL REQUESTS:

A. RES. #413-10-146 – ELAINE MULLINS – JUVENILE COURT Cost not to exceed $15

B. RES. #414-10-146 – CHRIS DAY – COMMISSION  NO COST TO THE COUNTY

C. RES. #415-10-146 – BOB STONECASH – COMMISSION NO COST TO THE COUNTY

D. RES. #416-10-146 – DAVID WESLER – COMMISSION  NO COST TO THE COUNTY

E. RES. #417-10-146 – STEVE SIMMONS, KYLE CROSS, KEVIN NELSON, JIM RAY, JIM WOOTON & DALE NISIUS – ENGINEER No additional cost to be incurred???

F. RES. #418-10-146 – MICHELLE DAVIS – TASC Cost not to exceed $270

18.3 minute mark on cd  

4.41 minutes – 1.07MB

File 6

Between meeting conversations.

23.5 minute mark      Commissioner Wesler asks Stonecash and Day if the "Commissioners Corner" is ok to turn into Eddie at the Register Herald.

24.25 minute mark      Commissioner Day brings up Dr. Wright should be included as he spent 4 hours at the Fair on Saturday.

25 minute mark     Commissioner Stonecash asks an audience member what they thought of the presentation and says "It's a good group that has been formed" (Reference to Preble County Development Partnership).

26.5 minute mark     Mindy Robbins comes in room.

32 minute mark     Commissioner Stonecash asks Commissioner Welser if he has anything he would like to talk about 4H at the Fair.

34.55 minute mark on cd  

16.21 minutes – 3.74MB

File 7

9:30 A.M. – TERESA GRAY (AUDIT COST AMENDMENTS)

36 minute mark     Meeting starts

Chris Day moves to go into EXECUTIVE SESSION UNDER ORC 121.22

Extended discussion on reason to go into Executive Session

41 minute mark     Chris Day's motion to go into Executive Session is withdrawn.

41.25 minute mark     Actual meeting starts. History of the audit fees.

42 minute mark     JFS expenditures audited

42.5 minute mark     7 major programs audited

43 minute mark      Spike in cost due to Federal audit.

51 minute mark       GAAP discussion.

52 minute mark      Going to GAAP next year.

53 minute mark      Landfill & GAAP with regard to post closure costs.

57.5 minute mark on cd  

22.56 minutes – 5.28MB

File 8

58.4 minute mark     Connie – David Wesler scheduled for Pork Fest – Ag Society mediation on August 20 at 1:30 at the Courthouse (3rd floor).

1 hr. 2.5 minute mark     Becky Sorrell comes into room

1 hr. 2.5 minute mark on cd  

5 minutes – 1.14MB

File 9

10:00 A.M. – JFS MONTHLY MEETING

1 hr. 11 minute mark on cd  

8.30 minutes – 1.94MB

File 10

Connie on calendar schedule

1 hr. 13.5 minute mark     On power outage last Thursday at Courthouse.

1 hr. 15.25 minute mark     Connie – asks about timeline on interviews for Economic Development position.

Chris Day on meeting tomorrow night and timeline (Tuesday) August 10. (Preble County Development Partnership)

1 hr. 19 minute mark     Question from earlier audience member for Chris Day on his regular job (Village of West Alexandria Administrator) and also being a County Commissioner.  Commissioner Day explains that it keeps him busy.

Chris Day excuses himself from the chamber for a few minutes.

1 hr. 25 minute mark     Discussion between Bob and same audience member. Everybody (Commissioners) gets along real good, have to work together. One party rule accept for Magistrate.

Question on economic development director being responsible to Commissioners. Bob answers correct, there would also be an "advisory board" being set up by Preble County Development Partnership. Director to be housed in Courthouse and funded by county. Partnership money for support staff, expenses incurred and marketing county.

1 hr. 29 minute mark     Bob on everyone working together (including villages) and good people.

Mindy Robbins back in chambers.

Bob leaves room to go "wake the boys up."

1 hr.  34 minute mark on cd  

23.27 minutes – 5.36 MB

File 11

10:30 A.M. – BUDGET COMMISSION MONTHLY MEETING

1 hr. 36 minute mark     Poor audio, use headphones.

1 hr. 39 minute mark     Actual revenues for first seven months up over estimate for year $508,166. (Includes unexpected $200,000 sales tax return) Sales tax receipts and real estate tax both up.

1 hr. 40 minute mark     Comparison to 2008 & 2009.

1 hr. 42 minute mark     Cash Balance August 1, 2010 – $1,518,943.05  

1 hr. 43.25 minute mark     For the first seven months of 2010 the Conveyance fee brought in $63,220.50. Since it was increased back in 2009 it has generated $86,222.

1 hr. 48 minute mark     Brenda K. White comments on real estate taxes

1 hr. 50 minute mark     Discussion of other counties economic positions.

1 hr.  52.5 minute mark on cd  

18.31 minutes – 4.23 MB

File 12

11:00 A.M. – BID OPENING – LEWISBURG-HORN ST. IMPROVEMENTS – FY09 CDBG

11:00 A.M. – SCOTT GALLOWAY – UPDATE ON WORKERS COMP RATING

1 hr. 57.5 minute mark     AUDIO GOES DEAD WITHOUT THE PREVIOUS TWO MEETINGS AND NO ADJOURNMENT.

1 hr.  57.5 minute mark on cd  

4.59 minutes – 1.14MB

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